Seven seats. Diesel engine. These are the two key words that describe the perfect SUV for Filipino families; words that now amply describe the all-new 2018 Honda CR-V. As Honda Cars Philippines, Inc. (HCPI)’s first ever diesel offering, the fifth-generation CR-V arrives to potentially steal the thunder (and sales) away from lumbering ladder-on-frame SUVs with its exceptional driving performance, all-around riding comfort, bold and sophisticated styling, and premium and upscale interior.
All 7-seater variants of the 2018 CR-V are powered by a 1.6-liter DOHC i-DTEC turbo diesel engine developed under Earth Dreams technology. Using an aluminum block along with optimized pistons and connecting rods, this engine is light in weight, but heavy in performance. Producing 120 horsepower at 4,000 rpm and 300 Nm of torque at 2,000 rpm, this downsized turbo diesel engine is clean, quiet, and efficient. Mated to this engine is a new 9-speed automatic transmission with a push-button Electronic Gear Selector and Paddle Shifters. The wide gear ratios allow the CR-V to attain low noise levels and high fuel efficiency figures—up to 18.9 km/L based on Honda’s tests.
Meanwhile, Honda retains the services of its 2.0-liter SOHC i-VTEC engine exclusively for the sole 5-seater variant. This tried-and-tested motor continues to produce 154 horsepower at 6,500 rpm and 189 Nm of torque at 4,300 rpm. New to this model though is a new Earth Dreams Continuously Variable Transmission (CVT) for improved fuel efficiency.
The 2018 CR-V rides on an all-new platform to provide a more agile and confident handling. Its wider front and rear track combined with front MacPherson Struts and rear Multi-link suspension promotes a more responsive turn-in and cornering. An enhanced Real Time All-Wheel Drive (AWD) system on the top-of-the-line SX variant adds an extra layer of handling prowess by allowing power and torque to be distributed across all four wheels maximizing traction and stability on any road condition.
And to top these chassis improvements, the all-new CR-V’s ground clearance has been raised up as well. The AWD-equipped SX is up to 208 millimeters (making it the highest riding among Honda’s local lineup) while the 2WD models stand at 198 millimeters.
Outside, the all-new CR-V heads to a fresh new direction with a more aggressive design. Revolving around the design concept of “Modern Functional Dynamic”, the CR-V features a sharp-lined grille that reflects an aggressive, yet sportier look. Over to the side, the wide and muscular fenders are filled by standard 18-inch alloy wheels while at the back, is a tailgate spoiler. All variants have full LED headlights with Guide-Type LED daytime running lights (DRL) with the SX adding High Beam Support (it toggles between low and high beams automatically when driving in the dark). Additionally, the SX gets a panoramic sunroof, power tailgate, and rain-sensing wipers.
Honda’s penchant in creating a “Man-Maximum, Machine-Minimum” interior continues with the all-new CR-V. The bold and sophisticated exterior is complemented by a cockpit that revolves around smart utility. It offers heightened levels of luxury and comfort while offering a true high-tech experience. Filled with upscale features, it offers black leather seating and premium accents for all variants.
Upon entry, the driver is welcomed by a highly informative full-color Thin Film Transistor (TFT) instrument cluster. The driver’s seat on the SX is fitted with an electronic 8-way power adjustment with 4-way lumbar support to offer impressive levels of comfort. The two other rows are no less impressive with the second-row seats in the 7-seater variants offering 60/40 split sliding and reclining function for easy access into the third row. Meanwhile, the third row reclines in a 50/50 split. Additionally, independent A/C controls and vents are standard across all rows with the second row getting two USB charging ports located at the center console.
When not ferrying the family, the all-new CR-V also boasts of unparalleled cargo capacity. It can accommodate 472 liters of cargo (522 liters for the 5-seater variant) with the third-row seats tumbled and 967 liters with both the second and third rows tumbled down.
Completing the CR-V’s modern and high-tech interior is an impressive infotainment system headlined by a 7-inch touchscreen Display Audio system. Offering intuitive operation, it offers all sorts of multimedia and hands-free functionality along with a multi-view reverse camera with dynamic guidelines. The S and SX variants add standard GPS navigation and additional controls for its dual-zone climate control system.
Further cementing the CR-V’s leadership in safety, the SX variant comes standard with Honda SENSING technology. This suite of safety and driver assistive technologies aid the driver to prevent or effectively respond to dangerous driving situations. It includes: Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC), Low Speed Follow (LSF), Collision Mitigation Braking System (CMBS), Lane Keep Assist System (LKAS), Road Departure Mitigation (RDM), Forward Collision Warning (FCW), and Lane Departure Warning (LDW).
Starting August 9, 2017, all 36 Honda Car dealerships will start accepting reservations for the all-new 2018 CR-V. The 5-seater gasoline variant is readily available now with deliveries for the 7-seater diesel variants starting by the end of September. The all-new CR-V will come in 6 colors: Passion Red Pearl (new color, SX Diesel 9AT AWD and S Diesel 9AT only); Lunar Silver Metallic (SX Diesel 9AT AWD and S Diesel 9AT only); Dark Olive Metallic (new color, all variants); White Orchid Pearl (plus P 20,000, all variants); Modern Steel Metallic (all variants); and Crystal Black Pearl (all variants).
The all-new Honda CR-V will carry the following suggested retail prices: 2.0S CVT 5-seater (P 1,539,000); V Diesel 9AT 7-seater (P 1,569,000); S Diesel 9AT 7-seater (P 1,759,000); and SX Diesel 9AT AWD 7-Seater (P 2,049,000).
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Manual gear with diesel sana
ReplyDeleteWow... Priced really well
ReplyDelete120hp at 2.1M? What happened to the 160hp diesel? I wonder if Honda PH is just plain greedy or immensely stupid.
ReplyDeleteOur engine is not the same as the Thai version. Ours use a different turbo, tuning, etc. this is due to our poorer fuel quality.
DeleteI thought we were already euro 4 here? also even the accent has 136hp and 350nm of torque, this has to lug around 3 rows of seats and power the AWD system. damn honda, I think they are just playing it safe here.
Deletebetter get an everest or forester or even the outback 2.5
Yes, we have Euro 4 Fuel already but every country has different "limit levels" when it comes to emission standards. Factors such as climate and others are taken into account when it comes to blending fuel.
DeleteSome are saying that the engine used for CR-V here is India sourced; same 120hp spec'd?? I am just thinking na fuel natin dito is just on-par with India and still way behind Thailand fuel Euro-quality??
DeleteSir who says we are at different levels of EURO 4 for every country.. just a question there... How come it is called standard if there are different levels of EURO 4 limit levels,... then it is not standard...
DeleteWhy only 1.6L for a seven seater SUV
DeleteDiesel engines need more torque than horsepower as far as i know
ReplyDeleteDang...120hp and 300nm....that's down from 160hp and 350nm in other asean markets...I already put down a deposit but now thinking twice about It...why can't Honda just maintain the other Asean countries' specs?!
ReplyDeleteAgain, it's down to our diesel fuel. In as much as HCPI wanted to bring in the 160 hp, 350 Nm of torque engine, Honda Japan didn't certify our fuels to meet their requirements.
DeleteI don't buy that inferior diesel excuse, how come all the European makes bring in their diesel engines on par with European specs? Same goes with Japanese and Korean makes. Doesn't make sense
DeleteOh you didn't know? European engines are prone to failure when gulping our shitty diesel. The repairs will make you want to shoot yourself in the head.
DeleteAnonymous 11:14 PM is actually on the right track somehow. Euro diesels will command a higher maintenance cost because their particulate filters will need regular cleaning...sometimes below 50k. Typically, these European car companies include them as part of PMS. For Honda though, I don't think they can levy an expensive PMS cost just for CR-V owners.
DeleteBesides, it will probably make it a lot more expensive. I've read that this engine is 47 kg lighter than the bigger 2.0 engine, that's equal to the weight of a full size adult. Remember the now Jurassic 2.5 diesel Innova was 110 hp only and it was adequate already.
DeleteAh, isn't the 160 hp the same 1.6L engine? Why would it need a different fuel standard?
DeleteUlysees, if you can buy expensive vehicle, are you afraid of the high maintenance cost? You think Honda maintenance cost is low? No way. What a piece of crap the thinking about our fuel.
DeleteLet's just say P 2.1M isn't the same as P 3.1M. Or so Honda thinks.
DeleteThe point is, if you are capable of buying a high end vehicle, why do you worry about the maintenance cost? That alibi of poor fuel quality is a piece of crap. Why in the hell that high end manufacturer kept bringing their expensive vehicles in Philippines if the fuel quality is so poor? The most probable answer in my mind is that, Honda can't do a good Diesel engine
DeleteI agree diesel fuel is a very stupid reason for not giving the other version. If diesel is the prob why dnt other luxury car companies both asian and western doesnt have this excuse. its lame stupid and unacceptable but the thing is we get what they sell so dont buy this crap.
DeleteThe new CRV is Hondas answer to the fortuner, but 120hp?? What were they thinking??
ReplyDeleteAccord to Honda's internal tests, acceleration figures are actually comparable to the 2.4-liter diesel Fortuner due to the CR-V's 9-speed AT.
DeleteIf the vehicle is new, the performance might be okay, but as it get older, the 1.6 L engine will not be sufficient considering its a 7 seater
DeleteHi Uly,
ReplyDeleteIs the 2nd row legroom of the 5-seater bigger/longer than that of the 7-seater?
Felt the same. The 5-seater version's second row cannot slide fore or aft though.
DeleteSobrang mahal naman ng diesel. Base Tucson 2.0 diesel is 1.25M after 100k discount -- a 300k price difference sa base diesel Honda. Mas malakas pa yun kesa sa crv 180hp and 400nm torque.
ReplyDeleteHonda > Hyundai
Delete120 hp for a seven seater? And some people thought that the muX was underpowered. This one even sets it lower. What's a term for even more underpowered?
ReplyDeleteJust to clarify, are the diesel variants with the 9 speed trannys regular automatics and sourced from ZF?
ReplyDeleteIt's a regular AT and not a DCT according to Honda Cars Philippines.
DeleteThe 9 speed tranny will iron out the 120hp engine. Tuned for economy cguro
ReplyDeleteGood luck on relying on this the problematic transmission recalled by zf. More gears does not always equate to better performance
DeleteUnfortunately, we can't get the better engines thanks to our piss poor fuel quality. :/
ReplyDeleteNo 1.5 Turbo. Tapos retained pa yung lumang 2.0 engine. Kalokohan ang Honda ng Pinas.
ReplyDeleteCurrently, they have no plans of bringing in an additional engine aside from the 1.6 i-DTEC and 2.0. That MAY change in the future though.
DeleteI hope they eventually bring in the 1.5 Turbo.......
Deletethat's right Ulysees Ang, once nilangaw ang 1.6L nila, no choice sila but to introduce a much powerful engine
Delete2.0 liter diesel is reasonable in the long run, 1.6 liter is totally inadequate as your vehicle get old. Honda clearly underestimate the market. I own a 2017 CRV, but i will never buy a 1.6 Liter CRV at the price of 3.2 liters Everest Titanium 4x4, or even a Chevrolet Trailblazer Z7I. Forget it Honda,don't bother to send me email telling me your new product
ReplyDelete120hp. pinakahihintayhintay ko pa. maderpader. ��
ReplyDeleteSir uly do you think the gas variant is the better choice againts the v diesel? How about the base cx 5 and the top of the line xv? What is the better choice? Thank you
ReplyDeleteDiesel na. 7 seater pa.
DeleteYou forgot to mentioned, underpowered pa
Deleteyou got to test it before you say it's under power, just like the mux, could be..but weight to torque ratio is almost the same as 3.2 powered engine.. how about what about the fuel efficiency???
Delete18.9km/L? Are you kidding me?
ReplyDeleteThat price is only for this year, right? If the excise tax increases in 2018, the srp may go up, right?
ReplyDeleteToo bad, the 1.5T didn't make it
ReplyDeleteYeah I was hoping it would come here too.
ReplyDeleteThe new powerplant is this seemingly weak ass diesel engine but I'll save my judgement after I test drove it or read reviews.
Nissan service is the worst here. Even worse than Ford
ReplyDeleteCrv Weakling is going to eat the sportage dust
ReplyDeleteMy pick is is still the CX5 diesel. This CRV's 1.6L engine won't stand a chance. The exterior design is also better in th CX5, elegant yet classy. The CRV look overdesigned and look at those hideous mags. The interior is nice though but I don't like the van like placement of the shifter.
ReplyDeleteCan anyone tell me especially the author, why say our fuel is dirty even compared to countries that has the same euro 4 standard like Thailand? It just doesn't make sense to me. If that is an international standard why is ours dirtier? Mr. Author I hope you can pose this question to a qualified expert and not rely on the car companys' answer. I have a suspicion they're just using that as an excuse to justify using older and cheaper engines here.
ReplyDeleteI presume once we get our deep dive and drive in October, I'm sure we'll have a tech expert with us.
DeleteThe launch wasn't the venue because the only person there was a chassis expert.
My conspiracy theory here is that they want the diesel variant to compete with the PPV pricing (entry level is just over Php 1.5M). If they used the "normal diesel engine" the entry level will be about Php 1.8M, which is at the high-end side of PPVs. This shows why Honda really lost it mojo. Before buying a Honda, this article (from Australia) seems a good read:
Deleteautoexpert.com.au/buying-a-car/how-honda-lost-its-mojo
LOL. That autoexpert guy from Australia is a known Honda, VW and Ford hater.
DeleteI hope its a decent 7 seater. Use to own 2nd gen CR-V and the third row seat was really a joke. Parang folding infant seat.
ReplyDeleteEV is the way to go.
ReplyDeleteAll Gasoline and Diesel engine cars in Europe will be banned in 2030. Asia and the rest of the world will eventually follow.
The base 7-seater is a pretty sweet deal, considering its diesel engine and 9-speed A/T.
ReplyDeleteReally? 120hp and 300nm? Isuzu NKR71 is even better at 121hp and 340nm. Honda, are you comparing the new CRV with Truck engine?
ReplyDeleteMr. Uli sir, any comment on the 9 speed zf transmission having lots of problems? Even Wikipedia took note of that fact.
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ReplyDeleteSir uly will you test drive the 2.0 cvt? Which is the best choice? Xv, cx5 or 2.0 cvt crv? Fuel consumption, driving, maintenance etc. Thanks!
ReplyDeletemag mazda ka na lang. mahal maintenance ng subaru. pangit ang cvt hirap sa overtake. ewan ko lang ang AT nitong cr-v.
DeleteI would definitely like to test the 2.0 S CVT variant of the CR-V. Cannot comment on which of the 3 compact SUVs you chose would have bigger efficiency, driving, etc. without a full on test drive.
DeleteSows, weak diesel, gasoline is life, i'd rather wait for the 1.5T, sana dumating.
ReplyDelete1.5T comes with a CVT...yuck...a big no no...was considering the cx5, but the Mazda badge and resale value is a problem
ReplyDeleteI'd rather choose the "droney" CVT than this underpowered 120hp,and btw, mazda badge is not bad nowadays,might be better than mitsubishi when it comes to service (according to experience, i also own an ASX) i have mazda 3 2017 and no complaints so far, resale value is fair (at the moment i dont really think about the future of the mazda 3 because i usually change cars every four years). IMO the big three are overrated these days (Still better than american and korean brands tho)
DeleteThe 120hp was the first thing that caught my attention when I read the specs. Quite a disappointment Honda.
ReplyDeleteIts time to listen to us Honda Philippines. Bring us a global standard. If the Honda Civic RS of 100 units was sold out in 48 hours. It proves we Filipinos are not cheap as your Japanese counterpart would think. We deserve better treatment.
ReplyDeleteTrue. Just like what Subaru is doing. Subaru doesn't judge the Filipino's capability to buy vehicles with global standard. Not like Hyundai-Kia, they only bring specced down vehicles. Don't go that way, Honda.
DeleteWell I think Hyundai-Kia's strategy is better. Tone down the amenities which most might not need while offering a world class engine. Honda is offering a substandard engine in the CRV while Mazda is doing the same with the 3.
DeleteYeah mazda3 with the 1.5 engine sucks. Compact car with a subcompact engine
DeleteAh yes, I wouldn't buy the 1.5 Mazda 3 also. Like, seriously bakit may 1.5 normally aspirated sa compact sedan. Their CX 5 diesel is a sweet deal though.
Deletethere is a way for honda to upgrade horsepower on this, just give a free diesel tuning chip....
ReplyDeletePlanning to get a cuv before this year ends, this or the all new cx 5 diesel?
ReplyDeleteNo wonder driving this 120hp crap with 7 persons inside is like driving a wigo with 4 persons in it
ReplyDelete^"Dirty" diesel?... is it because of the use of biodiesel per PH Law (Biofuels Act)?... some car companies claim that biodiesel can cause deposits and clogging in engines... especially in the very expensive "rail" of CRDI engines...
ReplyDeleteI hope the author (being a car guy), can do an article on why diesels in PH are considered "dirty" by most car companies...
120hp? What the? the upcoming ecosport engine might be 120hp also, and it'll be cheaper than this
ReplyDeleteWhy didn't honda just bring in the 1.5L turbo gas version like in the US version as another option to diesel. why?
ReplyDeleteThe slow sales of civic turbo forced honda to pair this crv with a cheaper engine. Mga barat tayo... yan ang totoo
ReplyDeleteWe filipinos are not the one's to blame about the slow sales of the rs
ReplyDeleteCx5 vs crv diesel? Hands down cx-5
ReplyDeleteyopps iskaiwooker:
ReplyDeletea 1.6L crd at 136hp & 260nm powering hyundai accent is reasonable enough. but for a 7-seater midsize SUV like crv to be powered by 1.6L diesel at 120hp & 300nm????? dumb! i mean dame! are you really competing w/ fortuner 4x4 2.8D at 178hp n 420nm given your crv price tag at 2M? coz i think ur much like ur own BRV - 7-seater 1.5gas at 118hp & 145nm. . . so think about this, im a filipino. i want to buy an suv that can practically fit my whole family, etc. a practical buy. well, il be confuse if i go to honda dealers especially if they display the crv & brv side by side. . you see, the crv 1.6D is marketed to fit the "filipino family need". . . the japanese engineers should have interviewed experienced marketing people in the phils. first before they assembled this thing. . . well, just my opinion, anyways. . :-)
Bwahaha, lame excuse again from HCPI for bringing in the detuned 1.6L diesel version for that price. Dirty fuel kuno. If you need diesel in a monocoque-chassis SUV, and you don't need 7 cramped seats, the Mazda CX-5 SkyActiv-D w/ the twin-turbo 2.2L *Euro 6-compliant* engine is the no-brainer choice at this price segment. Only Honda ricer fanb0is would say otherwise.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.mazda.ph/skyactiv-d/
"The Mazda 2.2L Skyactiv-D is the most technologically advanced clean diesel engine from Mazda that emits ultra-low NOx emission that complies with stringent Euro 6 standards without expensive NOx after treatment. Its lowest in the world 14:1 compression enables reduction in engine weight and mechanical friction, resulting in world-beating fuel efficiency. High torque, smooth and linear power delivery is contributed by two-stage twin turbochargers—one small plus one large turbo, achieving high torque and response at low speeds, and high power at high speeds."
Yes, Philippines, the Skyactiv-D is now here and it’s going to transform how you’ll drive…173 horsepower at 4,500 rpm and 420 Nm of torque at 2,000 rpm. And these numbers come from 2.2 liters of displacement with twin turbos and variable valve timing. It’s the automotive equivalent of having your cake and eating it too.” – CarGuide.ph
Mazda is also one of the tightest compact suv around. Its interior is so disappointing since my compact car feels a lot roomier than that. People buy SUV for one reason - more space. All that talk about better handling etc. falls flat in terms of practicality. Maybe that's why CX5 does not sell well at all.
DeleteLOL. If you need interior space there are larger SUVs at this price range. That's why I said if you don't need more than 5 seats then the CX-5 is better in all aspects. Mazda doesn't sell as well as Toyota & Honda because of brand ignorance & gaya-gaya mentality of typical car buyers who don't do research before buying their cars.
DeleteI use only five seats but I was disappointed by the interior space of the cx5, most compact cars have better room in their first two rows. While its important to research what's more important is sitting and driving the car. It may handle well but if your passengers complain on space its all for naught. Suvs are primarily family vehicles for one.
DeleteAgain, if your issue is space, then don't buy the CX 5. Or don't buy any Mazda for that matter. Mazda is not about space. Kung space kailangan mo, maghanap ka sa Honda. Mahirap bang intindihin yun? many people buy Mazda bacause they don't need space. I, for one, is among them.
DeleteMade in what country ang cr v to be sold here in the Philippines?
ReplyDeleteThanks
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DeleteWhat im after is the all new cx-5 awd sport, 190hp, but do think it's a gas guzzler? I want the diesel variant but f*ck my budget is just below 2m
ReplyDeleteThe reason why less hp/nm ang i-DTEC engine ng New CR-V dahil sa fuel issues natin dito unlike sa Thai.where it CBU.My adjusment/detune engine para sa criteria of fuel natin dahil kapag di nila ginawa yun mas lalo mag karoon ng malaking problema sa engine baka bigla mag stall while driving.Honda Ph is just being concerned to all buyers and followers.what i regret sana my Manual Gear 6MT!Space,Practicality and Utility whats CR-V known for and resale value.
ReplyDeleteWhich begs the question why the other manufacturers didn't feel the need to detune their diesel engines before selling their vehicles in our market. It's not as if super-advanced tech nung i-DTEC ng Honda compared sa SkyActiv-D ng Mazda, which is a Euro-6 compliant engine with variable valve timing and twin turbos. Low-tech pa yung Honda i-DTEC compared to that.
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ReplyDeleteAng Tunay na Lalake Honda CRV na Diesel ang kotse mo! Ibalik ang Bagsik!!! Bravo Biscuit!!
ReplyDeleteMasarap ang buhay, itodo ang arangkada ng walang palya. Broom Broom. Bravo Biscuit, ang bagsik mo!
MAHALAGANG PAALALA: ANG BRAVO BISCUIT AY HINDI GAMOT AT HINDI DAPAT GAMITING PANGGAMOT SA ANUMANG URI NG SAKIT.
Wow. So much vitriol from people who miss the point of this vehicle entirely. Its a Compact Utility Vehicle. It doesn't compete with medium-size Sport Utility Vehicles such as the Montero Sport, Fortuner, etc. Furthermore, that 1.6L diesel will sip less fuel while sitting in EDSA rush hour traffic. Moreover, my Montero with 130ish hp and 314Nm of torque tops out at 175kph and can effortlessly ferry 7 passengers up Kennon Road. 120hp and 300Nm is more than enough for the smaller and lighter CRV. Each vehicle is put into a category based on it's primary design purpose. It would not be fair to criticize it for something it was not designed for.
ReplyDeleteI would have to agree with you. I've driven a 100hp Fortuner with a 4 speed matic for years and I'd say its adequate. These types of vehicles aren't meant to be driven in excess of 120kph on a regular basis as they are prone to toppling over. To drive SUV's and crossovers like they're Subaru WRX's is totally missing the point. Don't forget the new CRV has 9 speed auto, and weighs 800lbs lighter than these PPVs
Delete2.5 fortuner with 102hp is so so not adequate....its ok city driving glat road...but here comes a steep hill or steep incline? You have to give a head start speed if not? Your dead...and im the only one driver passenger...what more if its full of passenger
DeleteI agree that crv is not made for races, but the reason why many people are disappointed is because on that price range you can get more powerful crossovers, like cx-5, and the quality of diesel here in our country is not the one to blame for this, in fact mazda ph was able to bring the diesel cx-5 with much much more power than cr-v
ReplyDeleteIf you want space in an suv get the crv. If you want power get the cx5. If you want both get the santa fe or sorento
DeleteHello?!??! Sira ka ba? 2.2L ang diesel ng mazda, alangan naman mas mahina yun.. bobo. Wag mo ikumpara sa 1.6L diesel.
DeleteAs they say you can't have it all
DeleteThey're of the same price range. It doesn't matter what engine they're displaced most look at the price
DeleteEngot din ito si anonymous 3:31, yan ang pinag uusapan sa thread, bakit di ginawang mas malakas ng makina, yan tagalog na para maintindihan mo, read first before you comment scumbag
ReplyDeleteAnd another thing, why would i not compare cx5 and crv if these 2 are on the same category? Whah do u think? Crv is in the same level of ecosport and trax? That's why they are on the friekin same category, kumbaga sa studyante, parehas ng grade, not thnking,
ReplyDeleteWala naman akong sinabi na wag ikumpara ang cx5 sa crv bobo. Ang sabi ko wag ikumpara ang power ng 2.2L sa 1.6L diesel... obvious naman mas malakas yung 2.2L. Mga engot!!!
DeleteAng jejemon mo
DeleteThere's a lot of skepticism as to this engine's capability for a 7 seater. To compare, the old Innova's 2.5L auto is 101hp w/ a curb weight of 1,670kg, this one is 119hp, 1,615kg w/ a 9 speed tranny. Both are 7 seaters. There's no argument among Innova owners(I'm one) it's adequate. So based on those comparisons I'd say the new CRVs fwd is more than enough to pull it. As to the 4x4(100kg heavier), well, 4x4 is all about power. Lot's of extra power. Isn't that the idea of buying a 4x4? This one, I'd say Honda's testing the patience of Filipinos. The 160hp is imperative here. Don't give us that crap of our Euro 4 fuel is dirtier. You're not that much smarter than us.
ReplyDeleteWho told you na kapag mas malaki makina mas malakas bobo?dahil sa 2.2 mas malakas na 1.6? Pki explain nga kung bakit ang kia rio 1.4 ex 107 hp but ford fiesta ecoobost is 120 hp, toyota fortuner 2.4 is 147hp, ford everest 2.2 is 158 hp, for your info dumb ass, hindi displacement ang laging titignan mo for u to know kung ilan ang hp, do your readings, do your homework crv fanboy
ReplyDeleteBobo lang.... Turbo ang fiesta ecoboost, naturally aspirated ang kia rio! Engot nga to! Boy, sundin mo sarili mong payo bago ka mag criticize sa iba!!!!!
DeleteHello?!?! Ang layo ng 2.2L sa 1.6L! Di tulad sa 2.2L at 2.4L na sinabi mo, magkalapit lang.
Ironic. Ikaw dapat mag research.... gunggong!
Fortuner g and montero sport have the same engine size(displacement) but montero has a much much much much more powerful engine than fortuner
ReplyDeleteAng pinag uusapan ksi dito bobo mula pa sa simula ng comment, bkt nga 1.6 lng ang displacement na nilagay, ska eh anu kung malaki diff ng displacement ng cx5 at crv? Pero un lng 120hp is enough reason to make people disappointed, they used 1.6, if thats the case they should have use twin turbo, or diff tuning, to have more hp, but in crv's case ayun tinipid, tpos ung mga tulad mong fanboy tuwang tuwa pdn, 2m php suv 120hp? Kgya lng ng brv ang hanep
ReplyDeleteGago..... Quality ng fuel at pag detune ng engine ang pinaguusapan sa simula pa lang. Wala ka na magagawa kung 1.6L ang ginawa ng Honda. Dami nag rereklamo bakit 120hp lang, sa ibang bansa mas malakas daw, tapos ikaw na bobo ba naman kinumpara mo pa sa mas malaking makina ng mazda. Eh kung di ba naman bobo tawag dun.
DeleteWala naman n talagang magagawa ksi its a dumb choice to choose ur 120hp over cx5, there no reason for anyone not to compare, they are on the same segment dumb boy, and another thing why would we not compare it to cx5? If cx5 was able to give their suv more higher displacement, bakit di ginawa ng honda un? And yet dumb boys like u are still defending ur favorite 120hp suv, sorry for comparing the moghty cx5 to crv even if they are in the same segment, but oh they should have put the crv in the class of ecosport and trax para walang masabi mga bobong tulad mo na wag icompare sa ibang same segment suv's, goodluck dumbass
ReplyDeleteSira ka ba?!? Diba sabi ko bago lang na makina ang kinukumpara at di sasakyan mismo? May sinabi ba akong wag ikumpara ang cx5 sa crv? Pabalikbalik na lang ba tayo? Ito ang mahirap kapag kausap mo bobo, hirap makaintindi.
Deletebobo din ito bakit hindi ikukumpara? bawal icompare ung 1.6 sa 2.2? nagbasa ka pa ng review kung super fan ka pla ng 1.6 crv 120hp lng mo, and concerning fuel issues kaya detuned ang crv, ulit lng ang sagot, hindi yan dahil sa fuel issues, ang dahilan ay dahil sa may mga engot mo na maniniwala na kaya detuned ay dahil sa fuel issues, truly u r a honda fanboy
ReplyDeleteBoys wag na mag-away. ALL vehicles are a series of compromises. Yes the CR-V could've had the 160hp version instead of the 120hp that we got, but then it's not 2,200,000 like the CX-5, and the CX5 is sized more like the HRV than the CRV
ReplyDeleteLOL. The TOTL CR-V is 2.1M as well. And you must be mistaking the CX-5 for the smaller CX-3, which is in the same category as the HR-V and XV. The current CX-5 interior is already bigger and has more comfortable and longer rear seats than the 1st-gen.
DeleteWell get the cx5. Not all of us wanted to have a higher hp engine... i dont need it. 1.6 consumes less fuel... & 120hp is enough to haul 7 pax. Ive test driven the CRV. Im contented with its power... i like the features and the looks over the cx5. Kung sa bisaya pa. Ayaw pagbout... nganu diay palit mi 2.1M crv vs 2.2m cx5?
DeleteSa akin mahalaga yung tinatawag na "headroom" that's why I won't buy the CR-V 1.6L at 120HP. Buti na yung sobra or me reserve power kapag kailangan kesa sabihing "pwede na yan" or "kaya na yan"
ReplyDeleteIdealy, dapat nasa mga 2.0L at around 180 HP ang compact SUV that's why I would be waiting for the VW Tiguan 2.0L Diesel. Mas mahal ng kaunti pero sulit.
Me kasabihan, if you hesitate, then don't go ahead.
Honda Phils we dare you to bring in the 160Hp here then magkaalaman kung magkano prize. At least me one more variant na pagpipilian. Nakasama pa yung naatat kami kakahintay ng CR-V diesel tapos medyo under power pa.
Don't get me wrong, I really like the CR-V, in fact I am upgrading my 1st gen CR-v kaya initially nagpareserved na ako. After reading this forum. I just withdrew my reservation.
Don't! Avoid the Tiguan at all cost! It's one of the most unreliable piece of crap you'll ever buy! Get the forester or CX5 instead.
DeleteHaha. Like I said they're all a series of compromises. Volkswagen quality is notorious worldwide. Filipinos are buying VWs based on the promise of the 50 year old beetle
Deletesame displacement, same specs and mechanics... must have been detuned to meet whatever fuel quality bullshit they say we have... its just a matter of retuning.. you might want to spend a little for this.
ReplyDeleteFuel quality BS
ReplyDeleteThis weaker engine must be cheaper compared to the more robust engine. So, Honda Philippines will make more money selling CR-Vs with this weaker engine. Stop using that fuel quality BS.
ReplyDeleteAll this complaining about 120hp... but most of the whiners overlooked the f***ing 300Nm of torque for only 1,600kg+ weight. That is significantly lighter than most 3rd world SUVs. Might not be able to go that fast in the highway but it can sure haul ass.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, stop whining and reserve judgement once you've driven it yourself. Di niyo pa nga nasubukan puro angal na kayo! Ang huhusay niyo! Talo niyo pa si madam auring sa galing niyo mang hula! Bravo!
hay nako you drive that 2.1 m 120hp crv diesel and ill drive my 2.1 m 174 hp fortuner and ill cut your balls sure you lose. it doesnt need to be expert on review. simple lang we are not that bobo to pay for such a detuned version marketed unscrupulously. honda executives accept that what you launched is the slowwwesssttt and most expensive product in its category.
ReplyDeleteUlol! TOTL model yang 2.1M eh! Meron namang 1.5M at 1.7M.
DeleteCORRECT KA DIAN. I AM DRIVING A 2.4 AWD 2017 CRV 5 SEATER. RESERVED AND LUCKILY CANCELLED MY RESERVATION FOR THE NEW CRV DIESEL INTENDED FOR MY SON. NO.3 PA NAMAN AKO SA LISTING. 2M IS 2M OK SANA IF ITS YOUR MONEYS WORTH. NO AMOUNT OF EXCUSESS INDEED. SHOCKED AND OTHERS SHOULD KNOW THAT THIS IS THE SLOWEST AND MOST EXPENSIVE SUV IN ITS CLASS.
ReplyDeletetama wag talaga. the hype that honda published that the crv diesel to be launched before in the phil is same specs. as the one in thailand includng the estimated cost in phil. pesos. yung expected cost lang ang tama . engine specs nakakahiya. really the slowesst in its class. much more your used to driving the 2.4. mambabae as previously commented baka pwede na rin. or wait for the 2018 subaru xv awd at a lesser cost.
Deletenako maniwala kayo dyan, bibili ng 2m magpapareserve tapos walang alam, give me a BREAK lmao. honda and toyota has abused the philippine market with their pricing. sobrang mahal nila sa mga other brands, you know why? because of our loyalty and their reliability in the past.
Deleteiba na ang panahon ngayon halos lahat maayos na casa and halos lahat meron din bad casa. in short nakadepende sa casa mo ang pms etc. try it mag pa qoute ka sa ibat ibang casa, iba iba din ibbgay sayo.
toyota sobrang mahal kulang kulang featuers, hirap sa atin basta bumili lang, di tinitignan ung mga importante like 6 airbags or other safety features that should be standard.
Ive driven the previous generation innova with 101 hp and 260 nm torque with 7 passengers and that power is adequate enough for out of town. Imagine this new crv engine with 120 hp and 300 nm torque and 9 speed auto transmission can do.
ReplyDeletereally also imagine if you are used to driving a 174 hp fortuner with 350nm torque at almost the same price. what would you feel. getz mo
DeleteUnlike the fortuner, the crv doesn't weigh 2 tons. So that extra 50Nm advantage of the fortuner would be offset by its significantly greater weight. Gets mo???
Deletehehehe... di yata niya na getz.
DeleteBumili kayo pag gusto nyo. Ako, hihintayin ko yung bagong Sta. Fe or Forester.
ReplyDeleteWala din yung 1.5 liter turbo na nasa US.
ReplyDeletehi ulysses, im a first time buyer choosing between this (sx) and the forester. i like the bells and whistles of sx (honda sensing) and the fact that it's diesel and all-new -- but i may be exaggerating them a bit compared to forester's advantage (the engine). what do you think is a better car for city driving? im not in a hurry to buy but the excise tax is forcing me to decide soon. forester with eyesight would have made the comparison easier but it's not available here. would love to get your suggestion because im a first time buyer (and i dont drive a lot).
ReplyDeleteIs the Mazda CX-5 we got here in the Phils also detuned like this CR-V diesel?
ReplyDeleteIt's been almost a month since the new CR-V's Philippine launch. and yet, no motoring journalist has gotten a test drive. Is it possible that Honda Phil. is still accumulating advanced orders before the weakness of its diesel engine is exposed by thoroughly credible reviewers like Mr. Ulysses Ang?
ReplyDeleteIt's more like the units are on tour around Honda dealerships across the country.
DeleteSince the question above is about CX-5. What do you think of the 2.5L engine of CX-5?
Deletehttp://www.carguide.ph/2017/08/review-2017-mazda-cx-5-awd-sport.html
DeleteSame here. i was undecided between CRV and CX-5 at first. Looking at my purpose and of buying a new car, and its competitive advantage I decided to pay my reservation fee to CRV. Although CX-5 has better driving experience and more powerful it is not enough to trounce the CRV's better fuel mileage, space and after-sales service.
DeleteWow, finally, a Honda that actually makes usable torque below 6000RPM! i-DTEC just kicked in yo! Teh Lulz.
ReplyDeleteI suggest we test drive the new crv first. But if it is really underpowered im sure honda will come out with a better and more powerful engine. It has to sell the 1.6l 120 hp engine in the meantime to recoup on its failed investment. Be the victim.
ReplyDeletealready test driven the diesel CRV... power wise its comparable with my nissan navara but smoother engine and power delivery. also it shifts faster than my navara.
ReplyDeleteThanks migzz for sharing your driving experience with the new CRV. It helps me in my buying decision.
DeleteA bit relief over my reservation on the crv tho i am more concerned with the space than its power. Thanks migzz.
Deletejust got my CRV last week. I have an 2.2 everest, 2.5 starex and old pajero and trooper for comparison. I must say, hinde disappointing ung power nya. for a 1.6 turbo engine, ang gaan nya dalhin. Ayoko na nga i drive everest ko. :)
DeleteBoys wag na mag-away. ALL vehicles are a series of compromises. Yes the CR-V could've had the 160hp version instead of the 120hp that we got, but then it's not 2,200,000 like the CX-5, and the CX5 is sized more like the HRV than the CRV
ReplyDeleteIt very goood
ReplyDeleteSo good.
ReplyDeleteIt very excellent
ReplyDeleteMaybe they made 2018 CRV for the harsh traffic in MM.
ReplyDeleteits not true fuel in phils has low fuel standard
ReplyDeletecar companies does not comply with the fuel standards and make alibis top four major oil companies can prove that
besides we all import our fuel
hyundai vgt has been there for the longest time
That's marketing strategy, first launch weak engine and then upgrade for higher power. Cars and cellphones have the same marketing style, need to change the looks and functions every year. Pagbumili ka ngayon magsisisi ka sa sunod dahil ipalabas mas hi-tek. Anyway mas mura ang sa ngayon compared sa upgraded. Paano nila ma justify ang price increase kung walang pangmalakasang pagbabago?
ReplyDeleteIt good but then it's not 2,200,000 like the CX-5, and the CX5 is sized more like the HRV than the CRV
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sir uly, is it true that honda is removing the keyless entry feature for the crv 1.6 S variant on new units for 2018
ReplyDeleteMukang mas okay pa na mag innova 2.8 nlng ako hehe
ReplyDeleteHard to compare gas to Diesel. Should be gas va. Gas or Diesel va. Diesel.
ReplyDeleteits not true fuel in phils has low fuel standard
ReplyDeletecar companies does not comply with the fuel standards and make alibis top four major oil companies can prove that
ust got my CRV last week. I have an 2.2 everest, 2.5 starex and old pajero and trooper for comparison. I must say, hinde disappointing ung power nya. for a 1.6 turbo engine
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