The Land Transportation and Franchising and Regulatory Board or LTFRB just threw the rule book at the Transport Network Companies (Uber and Grab to you and me). In a recent press conference, the government agency responsible for land-based public conveyance is reminding both Uber and Grab that they have to phase out non-compliant TNVses in 90 days. With the Memorandum Circular published last December 2, 2017, that sets a March 2, 2018 deadline.
The LTFRB’s requirements seem simple: phase out hatchbacks with a displacement of less than 1.2-liters. But digging deeper, it’s not as simple as that.
The Memorandum Circular that the almighty LTFRB is citing (MC # 2015-004) covers the country’s minimum standards for authorized taxi units. It so happens that the LTFRB told the TNCs to adopt the same standards on all TNVSes for the sake of public comfort, safety, blah, blah, blah.
A reader also pointed out Memorandum Circular # 2015-010 which clarifies the the standards put forth in MC 2015-004. Combining the two, the following would be the minimum standards for taxis:
Sedans with more than Piston Displacement of 1,200-cc or More:
- Overall Length: 3,990 mm
- Overall Width: 1,625 mm
- Overall Height: 1,455 mm
- Wheelbase: 2,405 mm
- Seatbelts (front: 3-point and rear: 2-point)
- Front SRS Airbags (driver and front passenger) – even noting its strict implementation starting January 1, 2016
- Third Brake Lamp
- Side Impact Beams
- Hydraulic Brake System
- Child Safety Lock
- Remote Luggage Trunk Opener
The only vehicles that pass all the minimum requirements of the LTFRB for taxis and TNVSes are:
- BYD L3
- BYD S1
- Chevrolet Sail
- Chevrolet Trax
- Ford EcoSport
- Ford Fiesta (1.5 only)
- Ford Focus
- Honda BR-V
- Honda City
- Honda Mobilio
- Hyundai Accent (CRDi 5DR only)
- Kia Rio
- Kia Soul
- Mazda2
- Mazda3 (5DR only)
- Mitsubishi Mirage G4
- Nissan Almera
- Nissan Juke
- Nissan Sylphy
- Suzuki Ciaz
- Suzuki Ertiga
- Suzuki Swift Dzire
- Toyota Avanza
- Toyota Corolla Altis
- Toyota Innova
- Toyota Vios
- Toyota Yaris
The best part? This is just a partial list of standards. The LTFRB also cites that the rear legroom (the distance from the cushion of the rear seat to the cushion of the front seatback) must be 650 millimeters with the front seat fully retracted backward. They also want the luggage space to measure at least 310 liters.
We don’t have the available data to further weed out the vehicles that passed the first round of scrutiny, but it’s not hard to imagine that one or two of them will be ineligible.
In other words, imagine what will happen if the LTFRB wakes up tomorrow and says that they’ll implement these standards to the letter. Just imagine just how many taxis and TNVSes will be taken off the streets and just how many commuters will be left stranded.
Displacement is not a good measurement for overall vehicle performance. A better metric would be power to weight ratio since there there are different types of vehicle you can avail such as UberX or UberXL.
ReplyDeleteBasis for safety should be based on standardized Euro NCAP or ASEAN NCAP ratings. Only allow 4 stars and above for example.
The only thing they got right is the legroom and luggage space of having at least 310 liters.
They should include mileage in the metric as well to please environmentalists lol.
I doubt if Honda will allow its vehicles to be used as TNVs.
ReplyDeleteI spoke to a Honda Dealer. They're good with it being used as TNVS, but not as Taxis.
DeleteBasta talaga nasa gobyerno, tanga.
ReplyDeleteKaya nga nasa gobyerno yang mga yan eh... di kasi pumasa sa job interview sa private sector.
Presidente pa lang, 7 years sa high school... lmao... tanga talaga.
haynako, i bet these guys sa LTFRB doesnt even understand what these "standards" are and i bet di sila nagaral...duda ko they just averaged some class tapos called it a day...
ReplyDeleteTo the author, please read LTFRB MC 2015-010. It clarifies the minimum dimension, safety and comfort features.
ReplyDeleteYup. It just clarifies the part about engine displacement.
DeleteIt just says that:
"the piston displacement of 1200cc for Item A-2 is the minimum displacement requirement not necessarily the exact displacement."
Excerpt from MC 2015-010:
Delete"Sedans with engine displacements higher than 1200 cc are allowed for acceptance as proposed substitute units provided the dimensions thereof are equal to or more than the dimensions listed under sub-paragraphs 2.1, 2.2, 2.3 aand 2.4 of said MC."
Excerpt from MC 2015-004:
2.1 Overall Length - 3990 mm
2.2 Overall Width - 1625 mm
2.3 Overall Height - 1455 mm
2.4 Wheelbase - 2405 mm
So a Toyota Avanza should be qualified since it's length is 4,140 mm (greater than 3990 mm), its width is 1660 mm (greater than 1625 mm), etc...
Thank you for pointing that out. Made corrections to the table and the article as well. Our apologies for missing out on this.
DeleteGreat. Thanks.
DeleteBy the way, minor error, please change to "YES" for Honda Brio Amaze 1.3 (already colored green). This one barely met the target. Too bad for his brother, Honda Jazz 1.5, for being short by just 1 mm (roughly the thickness of a five-centavo coin).
Volkswagen Jetta 4DR did not meet the height requirement:only 1,453 mm versus the required 1,455 mm. Please change to "NO".
DeleteMitsubishi Expander and Toyota Rush are new models, are they now allowed?
DeleteBefore posting correction to your article. Acknowledge mistakes and correct them promptly and prominently. Explain corrections and clarifications carefully and clearly. This is your responsibility. Many people blame ltfrb for your wrong info.
ReplyDeleteWe have posted the corrections less than an hour after it was pointed out. At least we take the time to acknowledge and correct our stories. Some actually don’t. We value the response that our readers give us and we do take these things seriously.
DeleteAs for blaming the LTFRB, we are blaming no one in this matter. It’s more like an eye opener that our laws are crazy complicated (new circulars constantly contradicting old ones) and that the enforcement of the law is selective.
Philippines are run and mana ged by Lawyers, They made laws without consulting specific areas or different organization for proposal, only lawyers and politicians, that makes complicated and crazy.
DeleteIsuzu Crosswind and Mitsubishi Adventure can also be used as Taxis and GrabCar 6-seater. Chevrolet Spin can also be used as GrabCar 6-seater but not TNVS. Peugeot 301 may also be used as a TNVS car but not as Taxi. Coming Soon to the Philippines: Toyota Hiace Commuter, Toyota Hiace GL Grandia/Super Grandia/LXV Hyundai Grand Starex Super Express, Isuzu i-VAN, Mitsubishi L300 XV Mikrobus, Foton View Transvan, Foton View Traveller, Mitsubishi Fuso Canter Tourista, and Nissan NV350 Urvan Shuttle/Escapade/Premium as GrabXL & Grab Shuttle.
ReplyDeletewhen it's going to start the grab Shuttle and XL?
Deleteas for the airbags, ano pong MC binanggit yung about dun?
ReplyDeleteMemorandum Circular 2015-004.
Deletehttps://www.carguide.ph/2018/01/did-ltfrb-ban-hatchback-vehicles-at.html
Why does Mitsubishi Adventure is not included? Ano sa mga standards nila ang di na meet ng Adventure? How about Adventure GLS Sport 2017??? Thanks i Advance
ReplyDeleteIf you look at the minimum standards set by the LTFRB, all taxis and TNVSes should have dual airbags. Ang Adventure walang airbag.
DeleteMitsubishi montero pwede ba?
DeleteMitsubishi montero pwede ba?
DeleteMitsubishi montero pwede ba?
DeleteToyota Rush almost 6 to 7 airbags. Acceptable na kaya para sa Grab?
DeletePwede na gawing Regular Taxi ung Mazda 2, Mazda 3 Ford Fiesta and Ford Focus!
ReplyDeleteNow meron naman palang ganyang standards, why don't we expand the safety requirements to cover ALL cars sold here in our country?
ReplyDeleteO baka meron na, wala lang nageenforce?
Dura Lex, Screw Lex. Mabuhay ang Pilipinas.
which uv express vehicle have airbags? if safety is the main concern due to no airbags, then all uv express vehicles should not be allowed as public transpo.
ReplyDeleteCorrect!!!!! so meaning mitsubishi adventure is not allowed so dapat tangalin din ang uv express and let the people suffer.
DeleteOo edi dapat lahat ng UV express na adventirevat crosswind ipag vawal nila.,ang daming nag labas last year na brand new pang UV. Pano gagawin nila dyan?
DeleteI would like to say that this bill doesn't interest me, but it isn't so. I had expected the Japanese marques Honda Civic and Toyota Yaris won't fall under this change, but I was wrong on the account of Toyota.
ReplyDeleteThen among the used cars that suit me, remains only Honda Civic and this decision is connected not only with the appearance of changes in the LTFRB but also by the change in the interest rate on the loan.
So I'm gonna get a report https://www.faxvin.com/ and choose quite good Japanese car.
Talking about tnvses and taxis that did not pass the standard of LTFRB, the question will go back to our government that why is it they allow selling said vehicles in the Phils, and it passed also to the safety standard be it for public and private riding safety..And it passed also to the International standard ..In addition, an daming UV express and taxis na walang airbags din, pero bumabyahe dn.. Ano ba talaga kau sa ltfrb? Ang dali nio lg magsabi na tanggalin pero ang hirap sa side ng mga car owners na umutang ng sasakyan tapos ang investment mawala na lg bigla kapag for implementation na ang MC stating the lists of cars na wla sa standard for the riding public..hoping for the immediate resolution of this concern..
ReplyDeleteIf we are talking about the "law" in regards to safety standards, The only thing i can say is that why allow tricycles, jeepneys with no seatbelts or buses with broken air brakes or even uv express with no safety standards funny how that works. There are no proper laws here it's just whatever the government wants since uber and grab are in the private sector they can only charge them a small amount. It boils down to effin money.
ReplyDeleteits the philippines it all boils down to money they dont get kickback they make rules to make u cough up money hey they cannot even solve the existing problems like plates and divers license cards
ReplyDeletewhich of the JAC vehicles can we use for TNVS? is the JAC s1 allowed?
ReplyDeleteAng Hyundai accent ba HND na pwede SA grab?
ReplyDeletehow to convert private car to taxi?
ReplyDeletehow to convert private car to taxi?
ReplyDeletesana nman po pwde na toyota wigo paranaman makatulung ako sa pamilya ko salamat po
ReplyDeleteHow about the new comer mitsubishi xpander can pass?
ReplyDeleteMadami pla na substandard na sasakyan. Dapat Hindi pinayagan Ng LTFRB na mag benta Ng ganyan dito in the first place. Bulok talaga utak. Yung PUJ nga Wala airbag kahit seatbelt substandard or Wala pa Yung iba at overloading pa most of the time. Tapos dito mag iinarte Ang LTFRB... Wag nmn Sana magpahalatang tanga. Sobrang Obvious.
ReplyDeleteMadami pla na substandard na sasakyan. Dapat Hindi pinayagan Ng LTFRB na mag benta Ng ganyan dito in the first place. Bulok talaga utak. Yung PUJ nga Wala airbag kahit seatbelt substandard or Wala pa Yung iba at overloading pa most of the time. Tapos dito mag iinarte Ang LTFRB... Wag nmn Sana magpahalatang tanga. Sobrang Obvious.
ReplyDeletepwede po ba ang nissan urban 2014 sa grabxl?
ReplyDeleteKung hindi na pwede ang Hatchback, papasa na ba ang Sedan ng Hyundai Accent?
ReplyDeleteHi. Is the new suzuki swift accepted to apply for TNV?
ReplyDeletePwede po ba ang mitsubishi montero?
ReplyDeletePwede po ba ang mitsubishi montero?
ReplyDeletePwede po ba ang mit montero?
ReplyDeletePwede po ba ang mit montero?
ReplyDeletePwede po ba ang mit montero?
ReplyDeletePwede po ba ang mitsubishi montero?
ReplyDeletePwede po ba ang Honda Jazz RS navi ?
ReplyDeleteI think the base variant of Honda jazz was 1mm short than the required dimension, but the top of the line Honda Jazz was more the 3990mm
ReplyDeletePwede kaya sa grab ang hyundai elantra 2013? Balak ko kasi ipang grab un elantra ko.
ReplyDeleteYes, pwede.
DeletePwede pa din po kahit 2013 model lang? Sabi po kasi ng iba dahil 2019 na po ngayon atleast 2015 up po ung pwede sa grab?
Deletepwede po na ung MG 5 and MG ZS?
Deletepwede po ba MG 5 and MG ZS sa grab?
Deletepwede ba ang hyundai reina for grab
ReplyDeleteYes, pwede.
DeleteThanks for the answer I've been thinking about that too....
DeleteIf Hyundai Reina is allowed, why not include in list.
DeleteHyundai Accent hatchback 2017 model pwede?
ReplyDeleteIs Mitsubishi xpander allowed to be a grabcar?
ReplyDeletegrab operator/driver asawa ko pede b sya mag add ng unit?
ReplyDeletePede ba yung mazda cx3 ipang grab?
ReplyDeletePwede ba ang hyundai accent 1.4 2019 for grab?
ReplyDeletepwede ba ang tucson 2016 model
ReplyDeleteAny updates on the list for 2019????
ReplyDeletePwede pa po ba ang vios 2013 superman?
ReplyDeletePwede pa po ba ang vios 2013 gen 3?
ReplyDeleteHi Sir Ulysses pwede po ba ung 2015 year model na avanza TIA
ReplyDeleteGud am sir pwede ba un avanza na 2014 ipang grab anong year model po ba ang qualified?
ReplyDeleteMG zs 2019 SUV pwede po ba?
ReplyDeleteWhy no puck up truck there?
ReplyDeleteGood time po. Ask ko lang kung pwede po hyundai reina? Kasi tinignan ko qualification is pass naman po para sa akin.
ReplyDeleteQualified po ba ang hyundai reina for grab tnvs?
ReplyDeletepwede kaya ang hyundai kona?
ReplyDeletepwede kaya anf foton im6 or BAIC m20 upgrade model with both SRS airbag at the front.Tia
ReplyDeleteIs kia soluto meets the requirements to be registered as garb car? Thank you
ReplyDeletePwede po ba yung avanza na 2012 model?
ReplyDeleteWhat is the oldest model po na iaallow pa ng LTFRB for Taxi?
ReplyDeletePwede ba ang mitsubishi xpander sa grab?
ReplyDeletepwede po ba ang hyundai kona sa grab?
ReplyDeleteBawal yumg bagong honda civic sedan?
ReplyDeletePwedi kaya ung NEW TOYOTA RUSH ngaun ee Grab if ever? Thank you
ReplyDeletepwede po ba ang Jac S1 Mini SUV
ReplyDeletepwede po ba ipang grab MG ZS?
ReplyDeletepwede po ba ipang grab ang MG ZS?
ReplyDeletepwede po ba BRV sa garb?
ReplyDeleteBRV S variant
ReplyDeletePWD PO BA MG ZS SA GRAB?
ReplyDeletepwede po ba hyundai accent 1.4 without srs?
ReplyDeleteYes, pwede yun.
DeleteWhat is the age limit of the car for getting licensed to do Grab, etc? I think motorcycles are 2013 or newer but I want to use a car. Thank you po.
ReplyDeletepwede po ba ang KIA Soluto sa grab??
ReplyDeletepwde pa po ba ang vios model 2017?
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