Toyota seems to be built like a house of cards of late. After finding irregularities in its vehicles developed and built by its subsidiary, Daihatsu, the Japanese carmaker is now finding itself with issues surrounding three of its diesel engines.
These engines were outfitted to ten vehicle models globally including the Land Cruiser Prado, Hiace, Hilux, Fortuner, Innova, Land Cruiser 300, Lexus LX500d, and the Hino Dutro truck. It encompasses not just the Japan market, but Europe, the Middle east, Africa, and Asia as well.
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It was found that during its certification process, the horsepower output performance of the said engines was measured using ECUs (Electronic Control Units) with software that differed from that used for mass production. This could result in outputs that “appear smoother with less variation.”
Although Toyota has re-verified that the affected engines and vehicles equipped with the said engines meet their performance output standards, Toyota has decided to temporarily suspend shipments of the affected engines and vehicles equipped with the affected engines. This is until they can be re-certified by the appropriate agencies to make sure they meet various standards, local or international.
For its part, Toyota Motor Philippines has released a statement on the issue. It reads, in part:
“This matter relates to irregularities in the certification process based on national requirements in certain countries, but do not have any impact on horsepower, torque or other powertrain-related values. Additionally, these irregularities do not compromise the emissions or safety of their vehicles.”
While this may be true for Toyota vehicles equipped with the affected engines, because the irregularities include engines and vehicles sourced from Japan, Thailand, and Indonesia (places where Toyota Motor Philippines sources its vehicles), this may have an adverse effect on available stocks in the coming months.
On the part of Toyota, they recognize the gravity of the fact that the repeated certification irregularities at TICO, following those at Daihatsu, have shaken the very foundations of the company as an automobile manufacturer. Like its moves at Daihatsu, Toyota will restructure TICO to overhaul and reform its corporate culture.
Toyota, the Japanese Scammers lmao.
ReplyDeleteNow this is absolutely Toyota and not Daihatsu. Thankfully, it's just the way how the engine output is measured and not some critical safety problem. I wonder what more irregularities will emerge now that Toyota will restructure its corporate culture.
ReplyDeleteToyota caught cheating again!Its best for them to be more transparent and honest instead of cheating just to cut costs.
ReplyDeleteToyota really can't catch a break, the GD and F33 engines tampered its ECU results. A massive overhaul is really needed to the entire Toyota Group for this to stop, and put those people behind this in bars.
ReplyDeleteLets hear from the toyota fanboys who thinks toyotas are invincible, reliable and heads and shoulders above all other brands..
ReplyDeleteStill miles and miles reliable and durable than china cars who just hide the defects, never issued recall and just let car buyers go into accidents. Aside from geely, most china cars here in ph has very high HP and torque on papers but when you actually test drive it - it could hardly move and breath
Delete2023 auto sales worldwide - #1 toyota 11.2M, 2nd volkswagen 9.2M
DeleteMay geely ka.ba sir
DeleteGoodmove cleaning the house
ReplyDeleteInnova na gawa sa Pilipinas hindi affected. Maybe because walang sinusundan na standard kaya walang problema. I hope this encourages car manufacturers to start manufactuing their cars here, they have less laws and certifications to worry about! Lol
ReplyDeleteRead the screenshot properly. One, the Innova affected does not use the 2GD engine (the 2.4L base Hilux and Fortuner engine) while our Innovas use the 1GD 2.8L engine. Second, and the most important one, the model affected is the Indian-spec model. It clearly says "Manufactured by: Toyota Kirloskar Motor" instead of "Toyota Motor Philippines." At least this issue is just with power outputs and not safety related like the Daihatsu scandal. The latter would reflect more on lack of PH standards.
DeleteWhy would toyota differ the software of the mass-produced cars from testing? Since the power output is the same anyways (if we were to believe that toyota that the mass produced cars meet the published output), then using the testing software for mass produced cars would be enough. Since it is not hardware related, i doubt there are costs saved by using a different software for mass produced cars. Why cant consumers have the "smoother with less variation" tune...
ReplyDeleteReminds me of VW dieselgate, using software to shortcut their way to meet certification. Atleast it isn't as bad since they still meet the published emissions and engine output... as of now. Anyways, these issues don't matter here in the Philippines (again, like with the DNGA products, Philippine automobile certification and standardization is severely behind other countries), and good thing Toyota doesn't sell any of these diesel engines in the United States; if they did, they would have been absolutely cruxified. I wonder how European countries would react to this.
ReplyDeleteLmao on these Toyota bashers....
ReplyDeleteLmao on these Toyota fanboys....
DeleteGood move, Toyota! Thinking of a solution instead of hiding the problem. Toyota, this time, will be as reliable than ever. Start cleaning the house!
ReplyDeleteToyo ta talaga.
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile Here in ph some people still dont want to let go of 7 decades old jeepneys๐๐๐
ReplyDeleteAng saya ng mga ahente ng ibang car brands. Utak talanka talaga mga pinoy
ReplyDeleteI'm not entirely sure how this affects owners of the aforementioned models. We have an LC300 and the performance is perfectly fine
ReplyDeleteIf I were a North American, then as long as Toyota hasn't been planning to drag Nissan into the former's umbrella, perhaps if this were to happen therefore my Tacoma truck could end up completely as a Nissan Frontier and as a result not just the Tacoma truck who could use all Nissan mechanicals while they're sharing them along with the Frontier truck - but also every Toyota vehicle sold in America could get shorehorned with Nissan technology and this could also be judgement day for Toyota. (Thank God my naturalized American cousins don't need to buy any of them so they're already hooked with Ford for example.)
ReplyDeleteAnd not mention, if all Corollas were Sentras as every Toyota car could behave all the way like Nissan cars then its like a hyena's brain being transplanted into a cat and the latter would cause trouble as hyenas does. (So if in doubt then I may refuse to ditch my Nissan Tacoma even when I bargain for a true-blooded Ford and/or Jeep for example.)